if you would have caught me before this i would be saying, “yeah, sure; your interpretation of the weeks prophecy is entirely possible; and so is his, and hers” but now that has become “newton is rationally correct therefore everyone else is rationally wrong. it’s nothing personal to anyone- it’s just the way it is. isaac newton is to blame for this; not me. that is to say, since newton’s interpretation is demonstrating itself to be extremely likely, that means all opposing theories become extremely unlikely.

you said “Do not get the Second Coming as King of Kings and the taking of his Bride confused, they are separate events” but this is cannot possibly be true since the apostle clearly states both things occur at an event called “the parousia of the Lord”- 1thess4:15-17; 2thess2:8. so, speaking in context of newton’s predictions i can now safely say that the catching up will occur at the sept 23, 2015 point. which blows my mind even right now but the information cannot be rationally denied so my hand is forced.

i have to side note here that newton’s work had time-constrained the prophetic timeline so we are going to be seeing the king of confusion launching his attack with all his host on tevet 10 and that is really REALLY looking like what all this mayan 2012 hype is intended to do- herald the parousia of the son of perdition. believe me when i tell you he’s coming, and he is going to wipe the church off the face of the earth- only a remnant of christians will escape the spiritual assault and remain faithful to the true King of Israel. i see clearly now that the means of escape is knowledge of the times as prophetic appointments. everyone is being taught to expect a horrible physical calamity but it is all a horrible spiritual calamity- and the christians are in the crosshairs. do not let anyone deceive you by any means: if he doesn’t come on tishri 10 he is NOT our Rock.

Eph 6:11-13 read it; learn it; live it. 1Pet 4:12

newton also interpreted the 1,260 days as 1,260 years, and considered these the course of the papacy which would culminate alongside the 49 years. thus newton knew that if he could correctly establish when to start the count of the 1,260 days, he could also discover the time of the second coming through this information, since he believed the 1,260 years and the final 49 years would run concurrently and have the same terminal point. unfortunately, newton could never determine a precise date with which to begin the 1,260 year count. he considered multiple dates, and to these possible dates he simply added 1,260 years for a possible end date. Thus the figures such as 2034 and 2060 are to be understood as possible end dates based on the correct start date (which he could never satisfactorily determine for himself).

there was only one prediction that newton was certain of, and this was that when Jerusalem was returned to its old inhabitants, there would be 7 prophetic weeks until the second coming.

in the article snobelen writes: On a single folio at the end of an early eighteenth-century manuscript treatise on the Apocalypse, Newton considers four commencement dates [of the start of the 1,260 years]: 609, 774, 788 and 841 A.D. The first date provides conclusion dates for the 1260, 1290 and 1335 years of 1869, 1899 and 1944. Newton appears to have been attracted to the 609 date because of the decree of Phocas in or around this year that granted Pope Boniface IV the right to “set up the Images of the Virgin Mary and all the Martyrs in the place of the Images of Cybele and all the heathen Gods in the Pantheon at Rome and in their honour instituted the annual feast of all saints.” Image worship was a major litmus test of apostasy. The commencement date 774 relates to the acquisition of temporal power by the Pope. Newton writes that it was in 774 that “the Pope gained his temporal Estate dominion by the grant of Charles the great [Charlemagne] and thereby became a king and like ye rest of ye horns.” The commencement date 774 provides a conclusion date of 2034 A.D., arguably more dramatic than the one publicized in early 2003.

now, of further interest is that, counting by 360-day cycles from a commencement date of 774 provides a conclusion date of 2015 (unless my math is off). if not, i would be EXTREMELY interested in knowing if i can pin down that 774 date to a specific day of the year.

He specifically thought that the 7 Week period referred to the Second Coming of our Lord (Which it does). Do not get the Second Coming as King of Kings and the taking of his Bride confused, they are separate events.

He (Newton) understood from Scripture that Israel would be gathered back into their land before the Second Coming (Isaiah 66:8-10). I have already shown that Ezekiel prophecied this thousands of years in advance. Israel is the Fig Tree (Hosea 9:10, Joel 1:7, Jeremiah 24, Matthew 24:32, Luke 21:29-30, Mark 13:28)

Grace and Peace be with you all!

I am not talking about Jubilee periods, and you are correct that the end of the 49th Jubilee from the restoration of the Jewish people to their land will come to the Day of Atonement in 2015. What does that have to do with Daniel’s Weeks?

The Lord, through his Holy Spirit, gave Daniel the Prophecy as he saw fit…..and as such one cannot argue that in order for the word to be fulfilled, and the count to be accurate it must start “From the going forth of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem”

That commandment in 1969 by the Israeli government could not have occurred had they not retaken those portions of land in the 6 day War. So yes, 1967 was prophetically significant and necessary for the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to go forth. Hence the Tetrad.

Let’s not strive over foolish questions and splitting hairs (Titus 3:9). The point here is THIS: No matter if you are Pre Trib, Pre Wrath, Post Trib, whatever the TIME is AT HAND NOW!!!!!!!!!

Repent and Prepare the Way in Righteousness and Holiness, Preach the Gospel for the Glory of Lord! Offer to set the Captives free from their bondage with the free Gift of the Lord’s Holy Spirit.

We must work the work he sent us to do while it is day; because the night is coming, when no man can work (John 9:4)

Grace and Peace be with all your Brothers! (& Sisters)

okay so i see that israel has returned, not by their own hand, and jerusalem is returned to them. so i am now seeing that what newton predicted using the scripture is now reality. if i am looking for a “command to return jerusalem to its old inhabitants” then i see that clearly on june 7 this occurred and the command was given by one Moshe Dayan. Bear in mind you can say “but i interpret this as a knesset command to begin rebuilding the old city” but that is not what newton tells me, he says “if a command should go forth to return jerusalem to its old inhabitants” so i am saying, june 7 completely fulfils newton’s prediction. the date is even marked by a an-naksa mourning by the palestinians.

so while your interpretation could be the right one, it in fact has shown zero predictive power while newton’s is demonstrating off-the-charts predictive power. that is why i must consider newton’s interpretation as superior to yours; it is simply a matter of reason. it is not reasonable for me to put your interpretation in the same category as newton’s since his words have factual predictive power.

this puts the second coming at either 2015-2016 depending on our count. as far as i am academically concerned, any other dates being set are all equally probable, all having the same sense of being untested hypotheses, as it were- while newton’s interpretation has left hypothesis status, subjected to falsification, and demonstrated enormous predictive power: this is actually quite staggering as it appears that newton has, in fact, ran a three-hundred-year-long experiment and the scientific results are now in: newton has scientifically proven that God is sovereign, and the second coming is imminent. it’s actually mind-blowing as i consider it.

now, add to this the fact that, biblically speaking, i already know that the second coming will occur on yom kippur. i’ve known this for years. but i never though the actual year could be glimpsed. but if we count 49 360-day cycles we come out right on the very day Christ has to return (perhaps not the year- but we do in fact come out right on yom kippur). i add to this the information the three tetrads; and i note something apparently big is going to occur in 2014-2015.

so it goes:

Christ must return on yom kippur. bible fact.
newton predicts reality; a command to return jerusalem to its old inhabitants beginning a course of 7 prophetic weeks until the yom kippur second coming.
beginning june 7 counting 49 cycles of 360 ends on yom kippur.
in the middle of the final tetrad grouping alinging on the holy days.

newton is shooting the proverbial prophetic arrow straight and true along a perfect jubilee cycle to hit the bullseye of yom kippur in the midst of the final tetrad alignments. maybe nothing occurs, but at this point, it is beyond rational dispute that God is sovereign, and Christ will return on Sept 23, 2015. that is where the information leads.

please bear in mind i am not saying this is bible truth (except, the yom kippur part); your hypothesis may be correct but it is highly unlikely (though i do note the information you are transmitting as well- i do not simply cast it aside without a thought); remember that the reason i am coming to this conclusion is that newton is predicting reality; that means i MUST regard his interpretation as true, and yours as false, until your hypothesis demonstrates itself to be predicting reality.